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		<title>Comment on The Player [rave] by dave</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I just watched this movie, and I've got windburn on my scalp from all the missed references going over my head (I had no idea about Cher and red).  I saw lots of people I recognized, but a lot of the time I wasn't even sure who they were.

I did notice the self-referencing, and that was awesome.  I'd have to go back and watch it with a notepad and paper handy to get it all.  Which is really cool.</description>
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<p>I did notice the self-referencing, and that was awesome.  I&#8217;d have to go back and watch it with a notepad and paper handy to get it all.  Which is really cool.
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		<title>Comment on The Departed [mostly RAVE] by Dave</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 07:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I just watched &quot;Infernal Affairs&quot; (Mou gaan dou), the movie &quot;The Departed&quot; is based off of.  It seems that the female character in &quot;The Departed&quot; is actually based on 3 characters!  In IF, Yan (eqv. to Billy [Dicaprio]) is forced to see a psychologist - but it is unclear how involved their relationship actually is.  He also has an old girlfriend (May) who is married now, but it seems her daughter is actually Yan's daughter as well.  And Yan has no interaction with Mary, the wife of Lau (eqv. to Collin [Damon]).  Apparently there is some backstory in the next 2 movies of the series that fleshes out (I assume) the relationship between Yan and May.  According to the timeline, Yan has been undercover for 10 years during the &quot;current&quot; segments of the film, and May was seeing Yan 6 years ago, so he was definitely undercover during their relationship.  This is a brief scene, but from the way she acts, it seems she has no idea that he is a cop.

That aside, the major differences I noticed were the different emphasis placed on technology.  Technology was much more in the forefront of &quot;The Departed&quot; - Costello (Nicholson) is exporting microprocessors.  Camera shots seem to linger longer over computer screens.  The same computer shots are present in &quot;Infernal Affairs&quot;, but not as emphasized.  Also, a major point is the use of morse code by the characters (via cell phones) - which is interesting as this is in a way stepping back to a more primitive/restricted form of communication.  However, using morse code is in fact the elegant, clever solution, and served to highlight the apparent increased tech emphasis of &quot;The Departed&quot;.

I think Scorcese's matching of actors was actually quite brilliant.  I have to say I prefer Sam (eqv to Costello/Nicholson) and by far Lau (eqv to Collin/Damon).  Nicholson could have toned down his insanity (a bit) and it would have been much better (and more like Eric Tsang who played Sam).  Damon had a very different take on the character of Collin than Lau was portrayed in &quot;Infernal Affairs&quot;, so it's hard to find one thing that he could have done differently.  For me it was suspension of disbelief, trying to reconcile the wussy/indecisve Collin with the Collin who instantly shoots fellow mob-mole (Fitzy?).
Tony Leung Chiu Wai was awesome as Yan (eqv to Billy/DiCaprio), but I thought DiCaprio was awesome too.

But this raises the question - what does a brilliant recreation merit?  It seems to me that most of the &quot;heavy lifting&quot; was already done.  Granted, recreations of plays occur *all* the time - new interpretations, etc.  A key difference, however, is that for many cases, there is no recorded version of the original play.  This is obviously not the case with a movie - the original media is preserved, almost perfectly.  And this isn't an old movie - it came out in 2002!  I would never make a blanket statement that recreations are never &quot;original&quot;, but I have to wonder.

Clearly we rate a Shakespeare play performance highly, but differently from that of an original play.  I feel that I'm according less merit to &quot;The Departed&quot; than I would to Shakespeare performance, and I'm not sure why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched &#8220;Infernal Affairs&#8221; (Mou gaan dou), the movie &#8220;The Departed&#8221; is based off of.  It seems that the female character in &#8220;The Departed&#8221; is actually based on 3 characters!  In IF, Yan (eqv. to Billy [Dicaprio]) is forced to see a psychologist - but it is unclear how involved their relationship actually is.  He also has an old girlfriend (May) who is married now, but it seems her daughter is actually Yan&#8217;s daughter as well.  And Yan has no interaction with Mary, the wife of Lau (eqv. to Collin [Damon]).  Apparently there is some backstory in the next 2 movies of the series that fleshes out (I assume) the relationship between Yan and May.  According to the timeline, Yan has been undercover for 10 years during the &#8220;current&#8221; segments of the film, and May was seeing Yan 6 years ago, so he was definitely undercover during their relationship.  This is a brief scene, but from the way she acts, it seems she has no idea that he is a cop.</p>
<p>That aside, the major differences I noticed were the different emphasis placed on technology.  Technology was much more in the forefront of &#8220;The Departed&#8221; - Costello (Nicholson) is exporting microprocessors.  Camera shots seem to linger longer over computer screens.  The same computer shots are present in &#8220;Infernal Affairs&#8221;, but not as emphasized.  Also, a major point is the use of morse code by the characters (via cell phones) - which is interesting as this is in a way stepping back to a more primitive/restricted form of communication.  However, using morse code is in fact the elegant, clever solution, and served to highlight the apparent increased tech emphasis of &#8220;The Departed&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think Scorcese&#8217;s matching of actors was actually quite brilliant.  I have to say I prefer Sam (eqv to Costello/Nicholson) and by far Lau (eqv to Collin/Damon).  Nicholson could have toned down his insanity (a bit) and it would have been much better (and more like Eric Tsang who played Sam).  Damon had a very different take on the character of Collin than Lau was portrayed in &#8220;Infernal Affairs&#8221;, so it&#8217;s hard to find one thing that he could have done differently.  For me it was suspension of disbelief, trying to reconcile the wussy/indecisve Collin with the Collin who instantly shoots fellow mob-mole (Fitzy?).<br />
Tony Leung Chiu Wai was awesome as Yan (eqv to Billy/DiCaprio), but I thought DiCaprio was awesome too.</p>
<p>But this raises the question - what does a brilliant recreation merit?  It seems to me that most of the &#8220;heavy lifting&#8221; was already done.  Granted, recreations of plays occur *all* the time - new interpretations, etc.  A key difference, however, is that for many cases, there is no recorded version of the original play.  This is obviously not the case with a movie - the original media is preserved, almost perfectly.  And this isn&#8217;t an old movie - it came out in 2002!  I would never make a blanket statement that recreations are never &#8220;original&#8221;, but I have to wonder.</p>
<p>Clearly we rate a Shakespeare play performance highly, but differently from that of an original play.  I feel that I&#8217;m according less merit to &#8220;The Departed&#8221; than I would to Shakespeare performance, and I&#8217;m not sure why.
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		<title>Comment on favorite morphing actors - (example films) by dave</title>
		<link>http://films.dyndns.org/wordpress/?p=221#comment-160</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know the movie title, but there's a serious movie in which Leslie Nielsen plays a murderer.  I only saw 1 scene but it was so shocking I had to change the channel.  That would be an extreme morph if he did it well, I'd like to go back and watch that.

How about Ewan Macgregor?

I haven't seen trainspotting, but I have seen Big Fish, Moulin Rouge, and Black Hawk Down.</description>
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<p>How about Ewan Macgregor?</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen trainspotting, but I have seen Big Fish, Moulin Rouge, and Black Hawk Down.
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		<title>Comment on favorite morphing actors - (example films) by me</title>
		<link>http://films.dyndns.org/wordpress/?p=221#comment-159</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ill give you Geena Davis and Brad Pitt, but Heather Graham I feel doesn't have the hugest range. Even Geena Davis probably could do a lot more. I guess I am thinking about playing such a strong role, that your concept of the actor really gets lost. In fact, Alec Baldwin almost belongs there for being in Beetlejuice - he plays such a nerdy guy you totally forget its him. Geena Davis also in that role disappears. Al Pacino back in the day might have been more like this, but became completely one concept that he takes from film to film now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ill give you Geena Davis and Brad Pitt, but Heather Graham I feel doesn&#8217;t have the hugest range. Even Geena Davis probably could do a lot more. I guess I am thinking about playing such a strong role, that your concept of the actor really gets lost. In fact, Alec Baldwin almost belongs there for being in Beetlejuice - he plays such a nerdy guy you totally forget its him. Geena Davis also in that role disappears. Al Pacino back in the day might have been more like this, but became completely one concept that he takes from film to film now.
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